Tuesday, June 26, 2007

At first, the poems of Chris Tonelli remind you of the off-beat wit associated with the
Night Terror
I had a dream that
the train seemed
important in passing,
something charged.
And I felt as if I was
easily going to have
sex w/ somebody
on that train. But, as
usual, it was someone
on the train before.
But then the humor gets more aggressive, or perhaps transgressive, and reminds me at least more of some of the aspects of Actualism – the 1970s movement begot by Ted Berrigan in Iowa that mostly moved later to the Bay Area before sputtering out – with which I was less fond:
Think Outside the Box
Think inside the butthole.
The last word of this one-line poem pivots the last word of its title, which is its “move” aesthetically. But it also limits it, drastically. So it makes me wonder.
This in turn is followed by a work that tries way too hard for its effect:
The Over-Zealous Philanthropist or The Bullshit Air on the Other Side of Forgiveness
In the silence
after the fart, he
makes sure that
everyone is ok.
Which makes me think the author must be very young indeed.¹ But then there’s something extraordinary:
At a Theater Urinal
The electric eye must have known the movie
was strange and wonderful because it flushed
while I was standing right there. It was true.
No one was watching anymore. It said: Go,
tumble like a manuscript over the lawn.
So that this short volume, {Wide Tree} – the brackets are part of the title – just out from Kitchen Press, rescues itself, tho not completely. Then I see this Cambridge poet dedicate a poem to Bill Knott, the crown prince of bad judgment wedded to an otherwise razor mind, and I begin to wonder if Chris Tonelli isn’t, or wasn’t once, one of Knott’s students. Tonelli’s own profile on Blogger lists a group of favorite books that includes these poets (and in this order):
Wallace Stevens
John Ashbery (Self-Portrait)
Ted Hughes
Elizabeth Bishop
A.R. Ammons
Fernando Pessoa
Nicanor Parra
Alan Dugan
Denis Johnson
Franz Wright
William Bronk
Bill Knott
August Kleinzahler
Anne Carson
Except for the Ashbery, not a
But it’s almost impossible for me to imagine the poet who could write “Think Outside the Box” reading & liking the inordinately grim, but ethically impeccable, Bronk. Or, for that matter, Franz Wright, whose poems are only funny in an Ed Wood sort of way, unintentionally. Ammons, Bishop & Dugan all strike me as among the very best SoQ poets of the past century – Dugan is especially under-appreciated. And he does use humor (usually of the gallows sort – Dugan might be the connecting point between some of these other poets & a writer like Bronk).
The most interesting of these choices, to my reading at least, is Ashbery, not only because Tonelli’s book virtually screams out its debt to Ted Berrigan & Ron Padgett & Dick Gallup & Darrell Gray (perhaps him most of all), all either NY School poets or, in Gray’s case, one heavily influenced thereby, albeit at one remove. It’s that Tonelli has chosen the very least “NY Schoolish” of all Ashbery’s books.
So here is my question, and it could apply to Knott as well as to Tonelli – why would a poet so thoroughly oriented toward a particular kind of poetry, specifically the
I’m not particularly saying that their approach is “wrong,” but I do find it baffling.
¹ His Blogger profile – not always the best source – says he’s 32.
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Bill Knott shows up at your comments party yesterday, perfectly politely (it seems to me), and here you go the very next day dissing him big time.
If it were an actual party with actual physical proximity and drinks (and being a crasher myself), I'd probably just slink off, or stand mutely waiting for fireworks (maybe someone will pour a drink on someone's head, like someone did to Oscar Williams at that party recounted by Antin in "the structuralist"), but the invisibility of Blogville emboldens me to speak up.
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I think critics should be wary of trying to untangle too many influences, particularly in a young poet. Young poets will be influenced by lots of older poets, of course, but there is always the danger that if we stare too long at the forest we'll miss the trees.
That's not meant as a comment on the quality of the poems themselves, but on your assumption of the primacy of lineage/influence.
PS What campus is Pessoa on?
I think Ron tends towards the formulaic.
You get to a certain point in your life, and you begin to distrust the "passionate" response, especially when it is not backed up with reason.
Ron's sense of polarization is a consequence of the deep division(s) which existed when he came of age, intellectually and as an aspiring writer. It's hard to shake those contexts.
And the further you get in reading, the less likely you are to discover something that feels as new as the first discoveries that stimulated your youthful passion.
One potentially damning disclosure: If you become so defensive and gun-shy that every time you think to praise some work you like, you circle the wagons and anticipate poison arrows, it doesn't show much confidence in your program. At a certain point, you have to believe that what you advocate is worthy on its merits, and won't need to be defended forever.
Ana, Pessoa’s monarchist political views initially distanced him from the stylish writer-set of the time in Lisbon and a chief influence of his was Futurism and Marinetti, hardly a figure of the SoQ pantheon. The presses ignored Pessoa and he never made a living teaching – whatever we could attribute those facts to, Pessoa was clearly much more modernist than the poets being published and winning awards in Portugal at the time.
Poe’s use of SoQ to describe the colonization of literature relates to Pessoa in that upon studying the English masters and getting a scholarship to English-language schools he decided to write in Portuguese despite his early writings being in English.
Don’t know if you have opinions about the establishment in Croatian literary history, Ana, but it would seem to hinge up until Tito on agreement with the religious views of the culture, with Kranjčević’s turn of the century iconoclasm (leading to his suspension from his university post) not shared by his more pious successors. There seems to be parallels to the 70s and 80s experimental movements like Langpo there, such as with Stojević and others.
I was able to find a Serbo-Croatian translation of highlights from Ed Sanders’ Fuck You! magazine in Split before the war, which included Ted Berigen, Alen Ginzberg, Frenk O’Hara, Dzon Viners, Dzek Keruak, Gregori Korso, Robert Krili, Edvard Dorn, Filip Vejlen, Leroj Dzons, Lorens Ferlingeti, Dzek Spajser, Anselm Holo, En Voldmen, Dzonatan Vilijems, and Pol Kerol.
Ian: yes, the establishment/anti-establishment literary movements in former Yugoslavia were very much politically shaped, as in most former socialist countries, and echoed in various guises most 20th century literary schools (futurism, postmodernism, langpo, "new lyricism" etc.) Here's an issue of Transcript featuring Cro poets of the 80s and 90s:
http://www.transcript-review.org/section.cfm?lan=en&id=188
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