Wednesday, May 03, 2006
A week ago Monday, I noted what I took to be a curious claim in the Poetry Foundation’s Poetry in America study, that “The Poetry Foundation’s primary concern is with the reading and listening audiences for poetry.” It is, in fact, the closest thing this report has to a topic sentence, and it appears toward the end of the discussion of key findings. The entire paragraph is worth quoting:
The Poetry Foundation’s primary concern is with the reading and listening audiences for poetry. However, stakeholders and participants in the qualitative research phase of this project felt it was important to collect information about people’s experiences writing poetry. We asked all participants about their experiences writing poetry as adults, and we asked those who wrote poetry about their experiences performing their own poetry. Their responses are summarized in Table 8. Thirty-six percent of all readers have written poetry as adults. Poetry users are significantly more likely to write poetry (45 percent) than are non-users, fewer than 1 percent of whom have written poetry as adults. Just over one-quarter of the adults who have written poetry (27 percent) have performed their own poetry in public.
This assertion explains a good deal of the 113-page report: why it asked certain questions and not others. But those relatively high percentages of poetry writers and performers suggest that the Poetry Foundation’s primary – and never fully articulated – assumption may in fact be false. With it, many of the premises surrounding not only this study, but its sponsors, the editors and publishers of Poetry magazine, dissolve pretty quickly. Indeed, it accounts for a good deal of the pathology at the heart of the Poetry magazine project.
The focus of Poetry in America is neither poetry, nor poets, but a third category it identifies as “poetry users,” a group it breaks into further subsections of readers & listeners & “former poetry users.” As the introduction states,
Poetry in
1) What are the characteristics of poetry’s current audience?
2) What factors are associated with people’s ongoing participation with poetry?
3) What are people’s perceptions of poetry, poets and poetry readers?
4) What hinders those people without a strong interest in poetry from becoming more engaged with this art form?
5) What steps might be taken to broaden the audience for poetry in the
But “participation with poetry” only incidentally means actually writing it. This study isn’t about poetry, but its “current audience.” The chapter headings set forth the primary research concerns:
* Demographic characteristics
* Understanding how people spend their time
* General reading habits
* Early experiences with poetry
* Later experiences with poetry
* Intensity of engagement with poetry
* Perceptions of poetry, poets and poetry readers
* Benefits and barriers
* Incidental exposure to poetry
* Opportunities for exposure to poetry
* Favorite and long-remembered poems
Thus when, in the chapter on later experiences with poetry, the researchers ask what kinds of poetry “users” currently read, the categories they offer are contemporary and classic, as tho they were brands of Coke. Interestingly, contemporary proves more popular than classic, as the graph below sketches out, giving possible responses and the percentages assigned to each. Some 31.7 percent read contemporary poetry, which might be Billy Collins & might be Geof Huth & might be Kari Edwards – we have no way of telling further, to just 19.2 percent who only read classic.

In fact, these numbers weren’t those given by the raw data. The
Over a third of current poetry users define the type of poetry that they read as “something else.” We asked respondents to specify what they meant by “something else.” Their responses were reviewed by project staff and the data were coded for those responses that appeared most frequently. Many of their responses did not fit into any category; however, there were four that repeatedly came up in the pool of ‘other’ responses: personal, friend’s or relatives’ poetry; modern poetry; children’s poetry; and inspirational poetry. While modern poetry could clearly be classified as contemporary poetry, the other categories and verbatim responses did not fit into either designation – classic or contemporary.
The question of how might Poetry – as distinct from “poetry” – serve “users” better isn’t one ultimately about writing, but about distribution. Nor is it just any model of distribution that is being contemplated. The report’s final section – “What Steps Might be Taken to Broaden the Audience for Poetry in the
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* Develop programs for teachers
* Help libraries and book clubs foster participation
* Increase poetry’s presence on the internet
* Create new opportunities for incidental exposure
* Challenge people’s perceptions
* Evaluate all programs
The first three suggestions are all deeply institutional. “Develop programs” is the sort of phrase that neocons twitch at whenever they hear the words coming from the mouths of the likes of Teddy Kennedy or John Kerry. And libraries, as at least one publisher I know likes to complain, are government institutions that, by concentrating books for sharing on a serial basis, theoretically may undercut the sales of publishers.¹ Underlying the first three suggestions, and just under the surface in most of the others, is the report’s ultimate presumption:
Poetry is an expert discourse written by professionals, distributed to, and read by a larger group of non-specialists.
It seems like a reasonable premise if the question you are asking is to reaching an audience whose list of favorite poems – from a survey that began with over1,000 people – turns up just nine poems that were listed by five or more respondents each and these were (in this order):
Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening
The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner
Written in 1936 by a 14-year-old, Mary Stevenson’s “Footprints,” a staple of inspirational verse, is the most recent text on the list.
Similarly, the report’s recommendation to increase poetry’s presence on the internet, reads tres retro:
Adult readers have access to the Internet at rates higher than what is seen in the general population. Currently, few poetry users turn to the Internet to access poetry or to find information about poetry events. However, as the Internet evolves, ever increasing numbers of people are using it, and the Internet is increasingly becoming the source for all kinds of information. There is no reason why poetry should be the exception. Websites devoted exclusively to poetry will most likely be visited by people who already are involved with poetry. But, even if relatively few poetry users visit poetry websites, poems are shared. Surprisingly high percentages of people who do not identify as poetry readers were sent poems via email or because someone copied them out for them. The Internet can deepen participation for current poetry users who will use it to search for poetry, and their social networks will broaden participation.
The use of the Internet for poetry has broader applications beyond developing websites devoted to poetry. Poetry is already part of solemn and special occasions. Placing poetry at sites devoted to these kinds of private ceremonies can help make people more aware of poetry’s role in commemorating important events.
These paragraphs could have been written a decade ago. And while their overarching generalities keep this passage from being wrong, as such, the nod that “surprisingly high percentages of people who do not identify as readers were sent poems via email…” returns us again to a world in which Caroline Kennedy’s anthologies of poetry, and those of Garrison Keillor, seem perfectly appropriate fare.
As a one-time contributor to Poetry, I know that this doesn’t touch my world in any meaningful way. But here’s my question: does it touch the world of Christian Wiman and the current generation of old/new formalists he represents? If it does, how very sad for him. If it doesn’t, one wonders just how much money the Poetry Foundation sunk into this project. One can imagine the New York trade publishers funding this sort of research, because it really has more to do with their use of poetry as coffee table and Christmas gift-ware, what to give to that sensitive but strange niece, that sort of thing. But as a study of the sociology of poetry, what is most remarkable is just how far it misses the mark.
More than anything, this study reminds me of the one time I found myself passing the offices of Hallmark in the
¹ This is, I think, nonsense, but the point of view is worth acknowledging.
professionals, distributed to, and read by a larger
group of non-specialists."
Ultimate presumption indeed. That's kind of fun though, that quote, which reminds me of a play I saw as a kid in school where a robot goes around a group of basket weavers to narrate to other robots about the skills required for the weaving of baskets. And I remember thinking how the robot could never do it, would rust first of all since water is needed to make the reeds for the baskets more pliable.
"Currently, few poetry users turn to the Internet to access poetry or to find information about poetry events." To which I say, currently you JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA to be saying this to be a fact. This is not something I agree with at all. Maybe it depends where you live, who you know, I don't know, but this is simply not true in Philadelphia. There's not a poet in Philadelphia I can think of (AND non-poets who LOVE going to poetry readings) who don't find out by way of the Internet. Anyway, it might have to do with region, or something, this.
Studies like this are interesting to comb through, as well as fun,
CAConrad
check out THE NEGLECTORINO PROJECT
How much like Bucharest, Bridgeport Connecticut!
An essay on poetry
Think back to the first time you ever heard of poetry. Underestimate poetry at your peril. Until recently considered taboo amongst polite society, its influence on western cinema has not been given proper recognition. Inevitably feelings run deep amongst so called 'babies', many of whom fail to comprehend the full scope of poetry. Hold onto your hats as we begin a journey into poetry.
Social Factors
Interweaving social trends form a strong net in which we are all trapped. Back when Vealinger reamarked "the power struggle will continue while the great tale of humanity remains untold" [1] he globalised an issue which had remained buried in the hearts of our ancestors for centuries. A society without poetry is like a society without knowledge, in that it irons out misconceptions from our consciousness.
Special care must be taken when analysing such a delicate subject. On the other hand anyone that disagrees with me is an idiot. It breaks the mould, shattering man's misunderstanding of man.
Economic Factors
Is unemployment inherently bad for an economy? Yes. Of course, poetry fits perfectly into the Custard-Not-Mustard model. For those of you unfamiliar with this model it is derived from the Three-Amigos model but with greater emphasis on the outlying gross national product.
The rest is on my blog, http://www.umbrellatooth.com , since I dont want to hog up your comments section. But you get the idea.
In the rare book business, I have a casual colleague who insists the way to "build market" is to conduct seminars on book collecting, which he believes will foster interest in purchasing more rare books. Like, here's an interesting hobby, like stamp collecting or nailing hubcaps to the barn wall.
I think Poetry Magazine's concept of audience is much the same. "If we could just reach more people, show them the goods, our subscriptions would rise. If more people read poetry, more people would buy it, and we could publish more books of poetry, there could be more readings and they'd be better attended. We could have more poetry courses taught on college campuses, and hire more poets to teach them. And more grants to poets. And more prizes, and more of everything!"
More.
I think this concept is quite close to Ron's. Ron wants to foster new "audience", he just doesn't want them reading Quietude.
who wrote that?
and surely accusations of creating coffee-table gift-ware apply to the whole business of limited and "fine" editions, which various avant-gardes has been more guilty of than anyone...
So what comes next? Will Poetry hire a Sales Force as part of their campaign, or will a few simple "L.Ron Hubbard style" TV ads do the trick? They seem more interested in sales than poetry and you have to wonder why, since the recent bequest should make them pretty secure - even if sales dropped.
By the way, any magazine that prints its own staff member as a contributing poet is suspect in my mind. If you want to read more about that, just google: "poetry magazine ethics policy" - first hit.
I will avoid this phrase.
The biggest problem I see is that poetry broadcasting is not mentioned. Hell, we have to bring poetry to the people. I know that Poetry magazine is following the in the spirit of Carl Sandburg. But we can't all play an instrument and many poems don't even make good songs.
So please take a few minutes and listen to one or more of these great poetry podcasts! Not your usual poety readings!
Missed the Flarf festival? You can catch up in five minutes.
Ever wonder what poets are in hell?
The answer is there!
What did Curtis Faville say in Castle Dracula?
Well, listen up to the Exorcism of Kent Johnson Part One and don't miss Part 2.
Most importantly you can hear a reading from the works of Rin Tin Tin - putative killer of JFK, revolutionary, lover of Billy Holiday, jazz guitarist, greatest Hamlet of the last century and more.
Here you go
:http://thejeunessedoree.libsyn.com/
The Dark Bark
It has been six years since Rinty died at the pound in Brighton Beach.
And now, for the first time, audio of his selected poems is available to the general public. He would have wanted it this way. Of course, all sorts of problems remain. His assertion that he killed JFK still questionable. His assertion that he was the greatest Hamlet of the twentieth century not accepted by all.
But what is beyond question is that in these poems he gives us a glimpse into an extraordinary dog -- a spirit who, in these querulous times, can, perhaps, lead us to an understanding of what it really means to live and to hope.
The very last minutes of this reading should be listened to with especial attention by those of you who are not quite convinced that the myth of the eternal return of a spirit, destined to again and again, bark at the dark until the darkness yields, is merely the embodiment of a vain hope.
See! They return!
FlarfHell
Did you miss the Flarf festival? Here is an account exactly (well, almost) transcribed then recited. The temptation to overlay it all with various news from the suffering world resisted. At least.
The Transgressive Poet
You can change your life. Here's how I did -- following the advice of Kent Johnson (yes, to younger poets but what the hell) to stop blogging and engaging in the usual reindeer games and do something to show that they know life is short, to defy the pezzonovantes of poesy and to live, to live!
Aw, Jeez. Welcome to 1996.
I'm actually finding this study incredibly ironic. I can still remember the days when the greatest dream I could imagine for my own work was to be the next Poetry.
Well, it's all about getting to know your gods well enough to catch them picking their noses, isn't it?
Come on, everyone! You gotta check out this internet thangy...hey, this would be a great way to expose more people to poetry!
bangs head repeatedly against the nearest wall...
“ ‘Challenge peoples’ perceptions’ Does that sound too strident? What do you think?”
“Yo, Mr. ‘It’s ready for the foundation’ -- Prozac Users hasn’t been changed to Poetry Users in two places! ‘Socializing by Prozac Users.’ Don’t you have ’replace all’? That’s my ass your messing with, copy boy! ”
“I figure Silliman’s going to have four bar graphs, so we need at least double that.”
“No, nothing about Robert Pinsky pop-up ads this time!”
“Show me da money!”
http://www.terrain.org/survey
The only way to find out is to listen -- as many have!
I feel sorry for Jimmy tho! The humanity of it!
questionaires - spanning several entries - points more to you, than to them -
you have fixed ideas - the boils are flexible - though I appreciate someone
trying to pit them against themselves...
kudos on the CBS thing - what a feather...
w.
Andrei Codresceau is there. He has invited me -- tho actually he invited the deceased composer who has the same name as I do.
A party. What do I know? Is the purple haze I followed symbolic? Chats with Ron, a discussion of the internal organs of Frank O'Hara. A sudden change. Ron pulls a Beretta and I tell him of my 32 pockets. Kent is brought to the stake.
The high priests arrive. Ted Kooser stands beside Franz Wright and Ron and Charles Bernstein as the exorcism begins!
End of Part 1.
Part 2.
Oh, no. That's not Kent but another fellow. Celestial intervention. Celeste Aida is sung.
Everyone is changed.
Was it a dream?
Then more.
There you go.
partitioning, corralling & coopting the poetry
movement...sorry if the word movement is too strong.
--- eb
No, before Kent was, I am. In the beginning these broadcasts were merry poetry readings, audio from Beirut (to hear the wonderful poetry of Lilac and the voice of the dangerous fellow who pointed a gun at her.) etc.. But then! I had to take up arms.
Why? Well, the cause of the two trips to Hell (Inferno 1 and 2) and “The Battle” was encountering a boneless breast of roast duck and seabirds “loud with dawn” in a poem of Ron’s. Then I realized that I must go to the ramparts to defend poesy from the ravening hoardes and then go to Hell to convey that most pitiful scene (in the lowest circle where poets continually try to find their balls) to any apprehenders out there.
I’m certain, as is typical, you haven’t listened to any of this. Maybe one. Nah.
But, just as the New Critics, you feel free to opine in any case. If you had listened, you would have heard my co-host, Marty Brennan, upbraid Kent and then opine that he probably has a “schnozz as big as Florida.” Kent is still sulking.
What care I? No, instead I’ve been to Hell and back. What else to do? That’s as amusing, I mean.
We fund arts because it's "good" for us. Baseball is a pastime, a luxury, not a public service.
Poets DON'T NEED MONEY AND TEACHING JOBS AND GRANTS and crowds of groupies to write!!! All you need is a writing instrument.
If you sit and stew about the lack of money in the arts, or the size of your audience, or the death of good poets' support systems, you're fucked in the end.
The professional poets of the world are the only ones who feed off the fantasy projections of professionally recognized and rewarded impersonations of "Poets". It's all bullshit, as Allen Ginsberg knew (and he DID know, he was as famous as they get).
Brent, don't worry about it. Get a decent job or marry a rich woman, whatever. But don't bemoan the capitalist system of rewards and punishments. It's an illusion.
Just write.
--Bob Grumman
You love it or you don't, and if you happen to have a lucky streak in that direction, your love provides you with enough external validation to pay the rent.
When was it otherwise?
I mean, unless you're Alexander Pope and writing long narratives in rhymed couplets where every single syllable must be JUST SO, it's not an issue.
Professional poets will tell you there's a complete disconnect between the money they make "in the business" and their own work. If that's true, then it doesn't matter what you do, as long as it doesn't make you crazy. I "left" poetry for 20 years to make a living, but if I'd really needed to, I could certainly have cranked out a half dozen books in that time; but to what end?
Teaching poetry might actually be a hindrance to one's self-expression, self-exploration. Too much distraction. I always thought a simple functional position, like a stationary engineer (a la Walker Percy's hero in The Last Gentleman) would be best for a poet. Total separation from the world of art and ideas.
I see that Barrett Watten writes less and less poetry these days (or at least publishes much less), now that he's turning out dense cultural criticism for his academic gig. Might one say his teaching has channelled his creativity away from poetry? (I mean that in the most profound way, not as a simple formal proposition.)
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