Tuesday, August 02, 2005

 

It’s been some 34 years since Al Purdy’s collection Storm Warnings first appeared, introducing Canadian readers to such new poets as bill bissett, David McFadden, Barry McKinnon & Tom Wayman. Breathing Fire 2: Canada’s New Poets, co-edited by Lorna Crozier & Patrick Lane, is the third such attempt since then to update this fundamental concept, the newcomers’ collection, the first two being Purdy’s second volume & the Crozier-Lane team’s 1995 Breathing Fire.

The book reminds me of nothing so much as Michael Lally’s None of the Above, the one instance of the newcomers’ anthology in which I got to participate, way back in 1976. Like Breathing Fire 2, None of the Above was a grab bag – in Lally’s case, an amalgam of the third generation New York School (Maureen Owen, Joe Brainard, Phillip Lopate, Bernadette Mayer, Hilton Obenzinger, Tim Dlugos, Lorenzo Thomas, Paul Violi & Alice Notley), Actualism (Darrell Gray, Dave Morice, George Mattingly, Simon Schuchat, Lally himself & Jim Gustafson), Language Poetry (Bruce Andrews, yours truly, Mayer again, Ray Di Palma, Lynne Dreyer, P. Inman & Barbara Baracks), DC Poets (Ed Cox, Terence Winch, Dreyer, Lally, Inman) and some very independent others (Merrill Gilfillan, Joanne Kyger, Patti Smith (!), Joe Ribar, Nathan Whiting & Paula Novotnak). History has already shown that the NY School poets of that generation did quite well, as did Langpo, but that Actualism virtually disappeared. Patti Smith is famous, tho not for her poetry. Gilfillan & Kyger continue to be originals, tho each now has a much larger body of writing to show for it. And Nathan Whiting, who composed long slender poems in his head while training for marathons, still deserves to be far more widely known. I don’t know if he’s even alive, or still writing.

That same sort of mixed fate probably awaits the poets of Breathing Fire 2, if they’re lucky. I stress that latter phrase since, of the contributors to the first edition of Breathing Fire – Marisa Alps, Stephanie Bolster, Lesley-Anne Bourne, Thea Bowering, Tim Bowling, Sioux Browning, Suzanne Buffam, Alison Calder, Mark Cochrane, Karen Connelly, Michael Crummey, Carla Funk, Susan Goyette, Joelle Hahn, Sally Ito, Joy Kirstin, Tonja Gunvaldsen Klaassen, Barbara Klar, Evelyn Lau, Michael Londry, Judy MacInnes Jr., Heather MacLeod, Barbara Nickel, Kevin Paul, Michael Redhill, Jay Ruzesky, Gregory Scofield, Nadine Shelly, Karen Solie, Carmine Starnino and Shannon Stewart – only Goyette is known to me a decade after its publication. And I do read around.

So is that the old Canadian border thing, or is that a function of the selections? I can’t say for certain, but clearly there are many wonderful younger Canadian poets – Christian Bök, Jeff Derksen, Louis Cabri, Mark Truscott, Darren Wershler-Henry, Jonathan Wilcke, Todd Swift, Kevin Davies, Sonnet L’Abbe, just to pick a few off the top of my head. How many of these young lights are here? None. If I pick up Sina Queyras’ Open Field, which admittedly has a different focus, something akin to “the best” Canadian poetry, rather than the newest – the only overlap between the two volumes is the presence of editor Lorna Crozier in Field. So while the 33 poets included here have been publishing around – several have books – none has as yet emerged from the white noise of the mags . . . at least from my perspective.

So what have I been missing? What seems clear is that – in contrast with the diverse poetics of that list of younger Canadians in the last paragraph – these poets of Breathing Fire 2 all practice sort of a gentle post-New American Poetics, some of it quite good, but much less concerned with innovation or with the relationship of form to contemporary life than one might expect from something whose title suggests a dragon-like fierceness. In many ways, these poets, to think of them as a group, straddle that ambiguous ground that has one eye on a side of the New Americans & another on that side of the School of Quietude that followed Steve Berg & Phil Levine in their revolt against the old formalism, arriving at something like the APR Free Verse Format. Is this a Third Way – rather the way ellipticism has functioned south of the border – or is this how Canada reinvents its own School of Quietude?

The Breathing Fire 2 poets include:

Tammy Armstrong
Sheri Benning
Amy Bespflug
Shane Book
Mark Callanan
Brad Cran
Joe Denham
Adam Dickinson
Triny Finlay
Adam Getty
warren heiti (who eschews caps in his name)
Jason Heroux
Ray Hsu
Chris Hutchinson
Gillian Jerome
Anita Lahey
Amanda Lamarche
Chandra Mayor
Steve McOrmond
Alayna Munce
George Murray
Jada-Gabrielle Pape
Alison Pick
Steven Price
Matt Rader
Shane Rhodes
matt robinson (another lower-caser)
Laisha Rosnau
David Seymour
Sue Sinclair
Nathalie Stephens
Sheryda Warrener
Zoe Whittall

If these poets aren’t a group, as such, there are at least three dynamics that are visible. One is that seven of them are or were students of Lane & Crozier’s at the University of Victoria. The second is that several have, or will have, books coming out from Nightwood Editions, the publisher of Breathing Fire 2. The third is that many appear to be “contest submitters,” which in poetry is almost always a bad sign. Take away John Ashbery’s Some Trees in the Yale Younger Poets contest many decades back (Auden asked Ashbery for the manuscript, but did make a contest out of it by asking Frank O’Hara for one also) & the number of major works produced in relationship to contests is exactly nil. That’s the dirty little secret even Foetry won’t tell you: “award-winning poetry” and significant poetry are mutually exclusive categories.

From what I gather, there were some 300 submissions to Breathing Fire 2. Of the 33 who made it, these are the ones who leapt forward during my reading as being, at the least, promising:

Shane Book has a poem entitled “Litost: A Style Manual,” that reads like very early Jorie Graham. He has at least the potential for some wildness that would give his work a depth these too tidy pieces have not yet gotten.

Brad Cran’s penchant for description & a clean line underscores a sense of craft that is always a good sign, whatever use it might be put to.

Joe Denham’s poems cry to be read out loud:

I etch ephemeral sketches in flat, black water,
swirling the pike pole like a sparkler wand,
the steel spear tip igniting fairy-dust krill
as we drift in to haul up our catch.

Hopefully he’ll never learn to tame that instinct.

warren heiti’s prose, as uncapitalized as he, has an over-the-top impulse behind it that has serious potential. So often, the best writing is that which takes one’s quirks and extends them, rather than reining them in.

Jason Heroux feels like a ready-made for the soft surrealist team (Simic, Tate, Knott, Edson). His work is deft, but immediately recognizable. Predictability is not an advantage here.

What I trust in Ray Hsu’s work is the intellectual ambition that lurks everywhere. I have an intuition that he may be a decade or more from his real work, but I’ll be interested to read it.

Gillian Jerome’s poems don’t hang together – and that’s what I like about them. The wildness in her work needs to be encouraged. She’s one of the very best writers in the whole book.

Anita Lahey’s poems have a wonderful sense of their line. One senses her being completely accomplished at what she’s doing. Hopefully she’ll want to stretch.

Chandra Mayor is the poet who made me use the phrase School of Quietude first when reading this book. Her piece here has the intense confessionalism one sensed in Anne Sexton, but that’s not a recommendation.

I like Steve McOrmond’s pacing. His work reminds me of some of the more serious sides of Actualism or of the uptown side of the NY School’s later generations.

I want to like Alayne Munce’s poetry – it has a liveliness under the surface that peeks out constantly, but these poems are so constrained I want to scream.

George Murray – another Actualist who probably has never heard of that term before.

Steven Price has serious writing chops – he’s not the most accomplished of the bunch (Book, Heroux & Lahey are), but he’s obviously going somewhere in a hurry. I like intellectual ambition – I say that repeatedly & it’s true. He may be on his way toward being the B.C. version of Paul Muldoon, but there are far worse fates.

matt robinson is all about the line. He & Book share that quality, tho their work otherwise is very different.

Nathalie Stephens is the wildest writer in the book. She clearly is going to be a major writer – in some ways, she already is. Consider all the turns & directions in this paragraph:

b produced Commodify me. How the Artists swooned! (They had forgotten irony.) Some heard Come modify me. They were doubly rapt. They dinned b’s unexpected turnaround! (Allowing this once for the minuscule; for hadn’t he too, enfin, capitulated?) Indeed he was spinning. With impatience no doubt as n was seeing him off. The city grew impatient for that departure.

You can’t fake this. As a reader, you either go with it, or you don’t. She’s obviously got the wisdom & commitment to go with it.

As a whole, the book suffers from the misconception that a poem is a Little Narrative in Lines. Breathing Fire has more of an APR feel than APR itself has had in some time. Still, there is real work amidst the exercises, especially Stephens & Jerome. I’ll be curious to see where heiti & Hsu take their writing over time. And, when I come across his poems, I’ll read Joe Denham aloud.


comments:
Nathan Whiting's still alive, Ron. Met him again after many years at a reading Mark Weiss, Rochelle Ratner, and I gave a few months ago. Don't know if he's still writing, though.

Hal
 
A quick googling suggests that Nathan is still writing--e.g.,

http://www.asteriusonline.net/13thWR/issue07/whiting.htm

Hal
 
Younger is a fuzzy concept no matter where you are, but from your list of "wonderful younger canadians", certainly Bok, Cabri, Derksen, Swift and Davies should no longer be counted as younger, both because of biological age and because each has quite successfully matured beyond any sort of apprentice-journeyman status implied by younger.
 
I go to the University of Victoria (as an English MA student, not a Creative Writing major) and I think there's nothing more abhorrent than the noodly nature / quiet storm genre of poetry they're excreting by the bucketload!
 
Ron,

The interesting thing about Breathing Fire 2 for me is the reactionary response it's gotten from the canadian avant/post-avant scene up here. In addition to some pretty vitriolic reviews (one from Reg Johanson in the new filling Station, another from rob mclennan in the new poetics.ca, though I'm sure there are others), Crozier and Lane's second anthology has inspired two subsequent anthologies and a third that, while it isn't the kind of knee-jerk of the others, can certainly be seen as a response to the one-sidedness of Breathing Fire.

*Pissing Ice* is the big knee-jerk, but I'm pretty sure editors Jay MillAr and Jon Paul Fiorentino intended that impression given the title. The rushed chapbook, though full of great writing, could never be an adequate anthology of younger Canadian writers. *Shift and Switch* an anthology coming out from Mercury Press edited by derek beaulieu, Jason Christie, and a.rawlings should be the real response. I haven't seen the final list of contributors, but knowing the three editors, the work in the book should come from a very interesting and critically engaged poetic. The wild card is *Post-Prairie* edited by Jon Paul Fiorentino (again) and Robert Kroetsch for Talonbooks in its attempt to explore postmodern/post-avant "prairie" writing that moves the focus away from an "I" trying to make its mark upon the world to a more fragmented, urban "I" if the pronoun can be used at all. What's interesting about *Post-Prarie* is the list of writers, which reads like a solid list of younger Western-Canadian writers:

derek beaulieu
Rob Budde
Louis Cabri
Jason Christie
Rosanna Deerchild
Adam Dickinson
Jon Paul Fiorentino
ryan fitzpatrick
Marvin Francis
Jill Hartman
Clive Holden
Catherine Hunter
Larissa Lai
Sylvia Legris
Nicole Markotic
Chandra Mayor
Suzette Mayr
Mariianne Mays
Duncan Mercredi
John K. Samson
Ian Samuels
Natalie Simpson
Karen Solie
Andy Weaver
Darren Wershler-Henry

Some of these writers have several books behind them (Budde, Markotic, Lai, Mayr, Solie, Fiorentino, Samuels, Wershler-Henry), others have just released their first (Weaver, Cabri, Hartman, beaulieu), while still others are before their first book (fitzpatrick, Christie, Simpson), but this looks like a good place to start for Western Canadian writers.

Hope that helps,
 
Never thought I'd see Coco Crisp in Silliman's comment box.
 
ryan – i think one of the reasons that Bfalso is such a target is because this thing got such mainstream glowing reviews i.e. the one in globe and mail. which includes this final statement

“For poetry lovers young and old, even for readers who have given up on the form because of misgivings over inaccessibility, Breathing Fire 2 breathes new life into Canada's poetry tradition, suggesting the esoteric endeavour is alive and well and in very good hands.”

which can be read as an apology to everyone for all that
“experimental” writing that went on – were are so sorry and we have written these story poems to say sorry.

Here is the full text-
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20041106/BKFIRE06/TPEntertainment/Books

love
dfb
 
i heard from some of the poets included that they actually submitted poems they thought too safe, too narrative, too dull 'cos they knew that's what would get in. it's a corrupt business.
 
I hope you turn your attention to the NY Times article on August K. Most poets n'er do wells!?

Shocking. And how did I miss his savaging of Garrison Keillor?
 
Ron,

Heard you say it before, but I just want to make sure, you’d tell poets not to enter these first book contests? I haven’t entered any yet, but I plan to. I worry that a book published by a small (small) press goes away before it is even seen (Unless that writer is already known). I’d like my work to be read. I also wonder if contests and importance are mutually exclusive. How many poets out there right now really matter? If there are more than a handful, I’d bet a few of them won first book contests. Would like to hear more on this topic.

Thanks
Jim
 
Just a small point, but wasn't it through the intercession of James Schuyler, who wa a friend of Auden's companion Chester Kallmann, that Ashbery's and O'Hara's manuscripts won a reading? (I don't have David Kermani's study in front of me, but in it Ashbery offers a version of how things occurred, I believe.) And among the Yale winners, what about Margaret Walker, Rukeyser, Rich, James Tate, etc.?
 
Thanks for the samples from BREATHING FIRE 2 Ron. I've only glanced at a few of them. I may be with you re Joe Denham; he can certainly write, anyway. But I am a bit mystified by your very enthusiastic endorsement of Nathalie Stephens. Perhaps I would have to have the book, but the paragraph you quote leaves me cold. This may well be due to shortcomings on my part. Or perhaps if I had the rest of the passage (poem/prose poem?) I'd be able to figure it out; as you say, the reader either goes with it or doesn't. But wild? How? What ineffable quality can't you fake? The only hint you give is that the passage has many "twists and turns". This may demonstrate a certain dexterity (though I don't see it), but poetry isn't chess-playing or dance; with writing/redrafting you can alter the moves as many times as you wish, and anyone can turn on a dime. What am I missing here?
 
Incidentally, two things I DO see in the passage in question are wordplay and a hint of intellectualism: art irony etc. You can find that kind of stuff in a cryptic crossword puzzle. Maybe I'm just an "outdated combine harvester" but where are the vital elements of poetry: eg. rhythm, metaphor or (the one that usually does it for me) imagery? I'll happily confess ignorance here, though I'm not proud of it. I am just, honestly, at a loss. ????
 
Southside, like you I haven't seen the rest of Stephens' work (in this book or elsewhere), so I have to guess at the qualities that excite Ron in general, but one thing I notice that's interesting is that it reads at first as nonsense, but gradually yields a context. Another is that it does so with sensitive attention to sound--in this case, lots of m's and n's and rhyming long e's, and a very distinctive rhythm. Try reading it aloud: I hear ghosts of dactyls even, especially that hexameter closing sound. And "Indeed he was spinning" could be the short line at the end of a Sapphic stanza.

Excessive use of conventional metaphor, with the kind of imagery that tends to produce, is one of the things that has made so much contemporary poetry stale in predictable, in my opinion (and, I feel safe in saying, Ron's). Too many writers neglect the hundreds of other available devices in classical rhetoric alone (synecdoche, zeugma, epizeuxis, etc., ad infinitum), to say nothing of more recent procedural methods employed by the Dadaists, Oulipians, Language Poets, and others. What you miss here is not simply neglected, but, I think, consciously passed over in favor of something else. That "something else" isn't as habitually coded and readily recognizable, so the reader really has to look for it and think about it, and thus the interaction between reader and poem is more charged than in a typical "mainstream" lyric reading experience. The risk it takes, however, is that the reader will be initially put off by the unfamiliarity and not spend the time to see what it's doing. I'm not saying this as a put-down: I think it's a normal, understandable human reaction. But that's why this kind of poetry benefits from venues like this one, where readers can discuss, reevaluate, pick up on emerging conventions and the social formations in which they circulate, etc.

I can't tell from this one excerpt whether Stephens' poetry would continue to engage me in larger doses. But I can see that there is something going on in it besides randomness and clever irony, at the same time that I can understand why someone might initially perceive it that way.
 
Sorry, that should read "stale *and* predictable" in the first sentence of the second paragraph above.
 
Nathalie Stephens has a 2003 Coach House book called Paper City that I would highly recommend. At that length one sees her concerns more vividly, but in my view Kasey is fairly close to intuiting and/or uncovering many of them. Paper City is built largely in prose-esque paragraphs, with recurrent reference to language and languages (Stephens also writes in French), with recurrent allusion to logic & linguistics. The work is pervaded by a Beckett-like sense of the despair of living and relating inside a paper/language city (the anxiety of reference), untranslatability, unspeakability. In what one might by now consider a small tradition among younger innovative writers (thinking of Pamala Lu's A Novel) her "characters" are named only by their initals, n and b. A character named ? also shows up, and one named M. Some of the syntactical complexity, tweaked narrative, and antique vocabulary reminded me periodically of Taylor Brady's Microclimates. Since n could be Natalie, or could perhaps (in my reading) also function as "neither" versus b for "both" in the classic neither-both logical construction, the poems neatly bring forward the question of whether there are other models for narrative besides fiction--what's narrative in logic, what's narrative in linguistic analysis, etc. ? There's also a rich undercurrent of transgressive sexuality and feminisms, a foregrounding of the body, with attendant radical gender questions going on ("Who will speak for the body?" etc.).

That's some of the style and content, as i read it. I would assert the prosody, at least in my experience, gets somwhat backscreened in these sorts of (shall we still call it?) "prose poetry" forms, although it speaks well to Ron and Kasey that they can pluck that out of even small excerpts. But it's less line by line or word by word than a rhythm back and forth between intelligible content, the appearence of such content, and elusive collapses. So what one excerpts can matter a great deal and have many functions w/in the larger work. All of which is a style with a string of forerunners to be sure. Stephens also has a good essay in Biting the Error: Writers Explore Narrative, also from Coach House.
 
I have to agree with Brent here - it was the prosody of that excerpt that I was most especially taken by. The way it forces the reader in one direction, then the other.
 
I got an email from The Poetry Center of Chicago announcing their 05-06 reading series which includes NATHALIE STEPHENS! She'll be reading as part of the Around the Coyote Fall Arts Festival (Sunday, Sept 11 from 6-8 pm at Subterranean, 2011 North Avenue, Chicago IL 60647, $5.00 (+ cash bar) check it out www.poetrycenter.org
 
K Silem, Brent, Ron,
Thanks for your detailed response. I'd like to take up a few points and will get back if I can find the time.
 
Muriel Rukeyser, Margaret Walker, and Adrienne Rich all won the Yale Younger Poets prize. Like 'em or not, none of them is quietistic.

Frank O'Hara won the Hopwood Award at the University of Michigan. John Ashbery judged it one year when I was a student there.

Aeschylus won some awards for his poetic dramas too. Nothing quietistic there! But that was a while ago.
 
and another:

http://www.ottawaxpress.ca/books/books.aspx?iIDArticle=5306
 
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Portrait by Didi Menendez

Ron Silliman has written and edited over 30 books to date. Silliman was the 2006 Poet Laureate of the Blogosphere, a 2003 Literary Fellow of the National Endowment for the Arts and was a 2002 Fellow of the Pennsylvania Arts Council as well as a Pew Fellow in the Arts in 1998. He lives in Chester County, Pennsylvania, with his wife and two sons, and works as a market analyst in the computer industry.


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